Death Spares No Man, Except for Maybe Daniel Jackson?

Daniel dies and ascends in "Meridian"

It has almost become a running joke — the Many Deaths of Daniel Jackon — and maybe even Michael Shanks will join in on it for a few laughs, but after a while, one does have to wonder, “Does Daniel fear permanent death?”

At his recent appearance at the Creation Con in Secaucus, New Jersey, Shanks answered several questions dealing with Stargate character deaths and their impact on the actors who play them. In his usual playful manner, he answered some of them lightly, but for others, there was definitely a sense that he’s pondered the issue a great deal from the actor’s point of view, as well as from the storyteller’s. “It’s kind of losing that cliff-hanging, biting-your-nails, edge-of-your-seat kind of thing,” he told the audience.

Daniel dies in "Reckoning Part 2″

Shanks remembers when he read the script for Season Eight’s “Reckoning Part 2” in which Daniel is brutally stabbed to death through the chest by Replicator Carter. His reaction to writer Robert C. Cooper was, “Rob! Come on, man! This is like what? The tenth time?” Shanks declared about Cooper, “He gets a kick out of this stuff!”

He has even told the story from years back about how Brad Wright handed him the script for “Fire and Water” where in the teaser, Daniel is pronounced dead. Then, Wright devilishly takes the script back so that Shanks couldn’t read the rest of the story. That probably made the actor really start to wonder, but now, he’s taking the adage of “no one really dies in sci-fi” to heart. “I think I lost track at about eight,” he replied when asked how many times Daniel has died. Shanks might want to consider reading Michelle’s con report from the San Diego Comic Con held back in July where it clearly states that Martin Wood said that the magic number for sci-fi deaths is supposed to be “6”. What does that mean for Daniel and his actor, then?

Should Daniel’s fans be worried that he’ll be permanently killed off? After hearing at the New Jersey con about the recent death of Dr. Kate Heightmeyer from this season’s Atlantis episode of “Doppelganger” (which Rob Cooper wrote, by the way), Shanks declared, “Maybe I won’t guest star over there! Wouldn’t that be a mother, huh? Get through ten seasons of Stargate, die a few times, but get killed off permanently guest starring on Atlantis!” Hopefully, when executive producer and co-showrunner Joseph Mallozzi recently talked with Shanks over the phone, presumably to see if Daniel Jackson can make an appearance in a Season Five episode, Daniel’s actor covered the character’s tailbone with a guarantee that he’ll make it out alive.

Daniel faces death in "Origin"

Even still, Cooper told the San Diego crowd that it wouldn’t be a movie if Daniel wasn’t dying. Cooper is responsible for Stargate: The Ark of Truth, the first of the direct-to-DVD movies that will be released next year. Will Daniel die or come close to it in that movie? That’s not certain, but Shanks had this to say about Brad Wright’s Stargate: Continuum, the second movie to be released in 2008: “There’s a scene in Continuum that’s very dramatic in the sense that Daniel’s left in a precarious situation where he realizes that he might not make it out of it.” He then says that as an actor who is playing a character who has died and returned to life so many times, “It’s hard to build up the energy … how do I sell this one without acknowledging the backstory?” Shanks offers, “Even he’s stopping to believe in the fact that he might die permanently. So it can have an impact on it, believe it or not.”

For characters such as Dr. Janet Fraiser, Dr. Carson Beckett, Dr. Kate Heightmeyer, and possibly Dr. Elizabeth Weir, Shanks believes that deaths like these are for “dramatic impact”. And as an actor, Shanks understands how a character’s death can have an emotional impact on the actor. “As for starting the trend? As far as I know, I was the first one to go, so, hey, I can sympathize, you know? Death has its effect on actors.”

After Shanks explained to his New Jersey crowd that he only counted “human” deaths, instead of game avatar deaths and maybe alternate reality ones, he closed with a near afterthought that fans might consider a spoiler for the movies: “There’s more on the way.”

SG-1 Season Ten DVD Review

SG-1 Season Ten Boxed Set (North America)From Solutions staff writer, Aurora Novarum:

So, the final season of “Stargate: SG-1” has been released on DVD, and it is well worth the purchase price.

Although the cover is conspicuously missing SG-1’s newest team member, Vala and the rest of the cast are of course heavily featured in the episodes themselves. The episodes are shown in the sharp, detailed manner we have come to expect, and the dvds are loaded with entertaining extras.

First of all, one of the most requested fan items has finally made the list of extras: Deleted Scenes. Unfortunately cutting room floor pieces of “200” never made the segment, but several worthy scenes of “Morpheus”, as well as some moments of “Quest Part 1” and “Memento Mori” remained. Sometimes it was clear to see why a scene or portion thereof never made it, but other times the loss is palpable. These gems alone are worth watching the boxset.

Although no “200” missing scenes are visible, there’s plenty of extras for this special anniversary episode. A behind the scenes special with how the puppet scenes were done and interviews of Martin Wood, Brad Wright, Robert C. Cooper, and Richard Dean Anderson, who with dry humor expresses the fulfillment of his lifelong dream to emulate Kermit the Frog, are amongst the hilarity of behind the scenes moments. Additionally, there are not one, but two episode commentaries. One by director Martin Wood, giving his usual fantastic balance of story and the filmmaking process. Brad Wright gave his first commentary with his co-executive producer Robert C. Cooper that was, if not the greatest commentary (as Cooper explains, it probably makes “the top 200”), still included some interesting nuggets.

Except for “Bad Guys”, the remaining episodes also include commentaries. In fact, there is a wistful quality in the Season 10 DVD commentaries. There is the usual filmmaking technobabble in the commentaries on “chocolate lenses” and “camera angles”, but the praise for cast and crew comes with a nostalgic quality. There are tidbits about moments from Season Three or Five as well as Season Ten. The cancellation is still a painful backdrop at times when the crew reminisces.

Each disk contains one “Directors Series”, including the finale “Unending”, which was especially poignant. Several clips from that last scene of filming were included, where Beau Bridges (Maj. Gen. Hank Landry) gave a touching speech, Gary Jones (Chief Mstr. Sgt. Walter “Chevron Guy” Harriman) cracked a few jokes, and the rest of the main cast and crew hug while shedding several tears.

Those planning to get the dvd set for the “Ark of Truth” trailer will likely be disappointed. So much of the trailer is S9 clips, I started to wonder if they were just beginning the “previouslies” for the Season Ten premiere “Flesh and Blood” instead. Some of the commentaries let slip small hints of what is to come in Ark of Truth and Continuum, but they may not be much more than those already searching for spoilers already know. The ad for Season 3 of “Stargate Atlantis” was action packed and entertaining.

Other series extras done by Mr. Ivon Bartok include an intriguing review of the Ori, including the designs for the Priors and Ori props, a segment devoted to Gary Jones, and an informative production feature on lighting the Stargate series.

As for navigating the dvds, they are more user friendly than some previous seasons for people to find commentaries, extras, and even more “chapters” for each episode to take you to specific moments. An amusing detail is each menu option has a distinctive Stargate chevron icon to guide the viewer’s choices.

For those who are still on the fence about buying this and/or have not purchased many other seasons of SG-1, a full series pack of all ten seasons including four additional bonus disks is coming out in October, 2007.

For a full list of the dvd features for this and all the SG-1 seasons, check out our DVD Releases page here: North America DVD Content.

To keep up with our ongoing recap segments on the dvd commentaries for all the SG-1 seasons, you can find them on our live journal satellite here: Solutions LJ Companion Site.

Shanks Interviewed by TV Guide Network

Michael Shanks in TV Guide Network interview

Michael Shanks was interviewed on the TV Guide Network show “Watch This” recently (broadcast on June 21), and he shared that he felt “old and unemployed” after the show’s ten-year run was over. He talks about Daniel and Vala, teasing the audience with the possibility of seeing romance in the strange circumstances in which they find themselves in the show’s finale “Unending”. Shanks implied that he’s in “negotiations” about moving from his home in Canada, his “nest”, but didn’t go into details about what’s currently going on in his career. He did mention the DVD movies and answered a “fan” question about why the show no longer showed frost on the Stargate travelers when they arrived on the other side. Shanks teased that they found out that the substance was toxic! Clearly relaxed and enjoying his visit, Shanks smiled throughout the interview.

[Thanks to Parsifal for the clip.]

Shanks Closes His Blog As SG-1 Ends

Along with the airing of Stargate SG-1 series finale “Unending”, Michael Shanks has entered his final post at his TV Guide blog. He talks about how much the last ten years have meant to him, especially about the friendships he’s formed as the cast and crew produced over 200 episodes of ‘gating adventures.

He closes with “So, as we say goodbye, and move on to whatever happens next, I leave you with these borrowed words: “Life is too short.” I aim to really enjoy the rest of my years. Hopefully, as much as I’ve enjoyed the last 10.”

Read the full entry at: “Unending”.

SG-1 Spoilers: Martin Wood on Continuum Location


Reuters has released an update on the incredible experiences of the filming crew of Stargate: Continuum, the second direct-to-DVD movie to be released this fall. This article contains spoilers about six scenes being shot in their dangerous location.

Reuters: Stargate Filmmakers Risk Lives…

From Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
“Stargate” filmmakers risk lives in Arctic Circle
By Borys Kit:

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – As the submarine slips under the ice, water splashes a cameraman who is lying on the ice’s edge with a submersible camera. Here in the Arctic Circle, the temperature is minus-37 degrees Fahrenheit — the point at which mercury turns solid — and this crew member is in immediate danger of freezing.

Martin Wood, the director of the direct-to-video movie “Stargate: Continuum,” quickly radios for help, and the cameraman is whisked away by helicopter to the base camp. He’s treated and will be OK.

The shoot is taking place as close to the North Pole as possible — at the Navy’s Applied Physics Laboratory Ice Station, 3,000 kilometers north of Vancouver and 200 nautical miles north of Prudhoe Bay, the northernmost city in Alaska. A team of about 15 crew and actors arrived Thursday for a seven-day shoot of six scenes for MGM’s $6 million-$7 million extension of the long-running sci-fi series “Stargate.”

The article also mentions the crew’s spotting of polar bears nearby, another one of the risks the crew is taking in order to film exciting and realistic scenes for the movie. Wood also talks about the USS Alexandria, the submarine being used in the film, and how difficult it is for the vessel to break through the ice at the right spot marked by an “X”.

Even though the landscape within the Arctic Circle changes constantly, Wood is enthusiastic about the location because the production crew were convinced that it couldn’t be replicated in a studio or generated with visual effects (although, they are building sets in Vancouver to accommodate Michael Shanks’s scenes; see previous story). “I don’t think it could have been done with the same sort of intensity that you’re going to have by shooting it real,” Wood said. “I don’t think you can capture the right feeling and sound if you tried to re-create it in an unnatural way.”

[Thanks to minigeek for the tip.]

Shanks approached to star in 3rd Stargate series!


Popular fan site GateWorld reports today that a third Stargate spinoff series is in development at Bridge Studios, Vancouver.

From GateWorld:

“A production source informs GateWorld that the new series is in the concept phase, and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. No concept for the show has yet been revealed.

The third TV series is also not likely to be rushed into production for a 2007 premiere in order to replace SG-1, which takes its final bow with 10 new episodes this spring. Instead, a premiere in 2008 or later is more likely at this point.”

The Save Stargate SG1 campaign site previously reported that Brad Wright and Robert Cooper, showrunners for Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, had withdrawn from those productions to concentrate on the two SG1 TV/DVD movies, contending that the Stargate ‘big guns’ could be involved in no less than the development of the long-rumoured third spinoff series.

In that report, the Save SG1 campaign site argued:

“They could afford to move over a cast member, a beloved character, or even two, but they need new blood – cheaper talent. That’s reality.”

Now Stargate SG1 Solutions can exclusively reveal that SG1’s Michael Shanks, who plays Dr. Daniel Jackson on the show, has already been approached to star in the third Stargate series! We were informed by a source close to the production that Shanks would be lead actor and Daniel Jackson the main character in the spinoff.

Fans of the actor and the character will be thrilled to note that Shanks was approached to star in the spinoff before the concept has even been firmed up!

There’s no word yet on whether Shanks will be accepting the role. The actor has proven savvy in the past, wanting to commit only to projects that have ‘legs’ and will be more than a one-season wonder, and is also protective of the character he portrays, having left the production for its 6th season when he felt Daniel was being under-utilised. He would be wise, however, to consider the cachet being a series lead would add to his resume for future projects. In the entertainment industry, lead naturally carries greater weight and status than second lead.

The many fans of the sizzling chemistry between Daniel Jackson and the roguish Vala Mal Doran, played by Claudia Black, will no doubt be gearing up to lobby The Powers That Be at Bridge Studios in Vancouver urging Wright and Cooper to secure Shanks and Black as their male and female leads.

SG1 leading lady Amanda Tapping will be moving across to sister production Atlantis as Samantha Carter for a yet to be confirmed number of episodes of its fourth season while actor and writer Christopher Judge is working on a pilot script.

Write SCI FI's wrongs!

Save Stargate has learned that in its 3rd week, Battlestar Galactica, critically acclaimed flagship show of the SCI FI Channel, has shed more viewers.

Airing Friday 20 October, Exodus Part 2 obtained a 1.4 HHR according to the Nielsen fast overnight ratings. This is a drop of approximately 11.1% from the 1.6 HHR for Exodus Part 1, and a drop of approximately 22.2% from the 1.8 HHR gained by the Season 3 premiere episodes.

No one here wishes ill of Battlestar Galactica, any more than we wish ill of Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis. Many of us are fans, or at least viewers, of all three shows. As campaigners, Save Stargate SG-1 have been arguing since the cancellation that, together, the Gates and Galactica had a natural synergy, a must-see triad in the SCI FI Friday lineup that strengthened the ratings of all.

SCI FI fixed what wasn’t broke. They were wrong.

Stargate SG-1, Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica have all shed viewers since the separation. Together, they were thriving, holding their audiences, gaining viewers, riding high. Separated by SCI FI’s scheduling decisions, they’re suffering. Stargate SG-1 has been cancelled. Even more expensive to produce, Galactica is bleeding viewers week on week. The proof is in the Nielsens, not the media hype.

It’s time to call SCI FI Channel on its bad decisions. Time to tell it straight to Bonnie Hammer and Mark Stern. They were wrong. Dead wrong. Let’s help them right that wrong.

Now is the time to tell them to save not just Stargate SG-1, but themselves.

SCI FI Channel needs to reinstate its SCI FI Friday lineup NOW: Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica.

SCI FI Channel needs an 11th season of Stargate SG-1. Or it might not make it into a 4th season of Galactica.

Parent company NBC Universal’s poor performance has seen them launch a $750 million restructure, including shedding 700 jobs, in a bid to restore profits. They cannot afford for SCI FI or Galactica to fail.


Randy Falco, President
NBC Universal Television Group,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112


Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive Vice President Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel
100 Universal City Plaza
Bld. 1440, 14th Floor
Universal City, CA 91608


FAO: Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel
Fax: (212) 664-3890
Tel: (212) 664-4444

FAO: Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel
Tel: (818) 777-1000

Spread word as far as you can. Encourage everyone to write SCI FI’s wrongs.

New fandom poll: SG1 character crossovers into Atlantis

Just as there has been talk of SG-1 finishing up with a couple of TV/DVD movies since the cancellation, there’s also been talk of SG-1 characters possibly moving over to Atlantis.

Without going through the formalities of collecting data through a survey, the Save SG1 campaigners are still interested in how fans feel about this issue, so they invite you to participate in their new poll at the site:

Which SG1 character would you most like to see transition to Atlantis? Go here to place your vote.

Please do spread word of the poll to all of your SG1 and Atlantis sites, lists, forums, LJs and Bboards. Even if you’re adamantly opposed to any character transitioning from one show to the other, there’s an option for you to vote too!

Stargate SG-1 Cancelled by SciFi Channel

Network cancels Stargate SG-1 as 200th episode airs

While fans and the media celebrate the airing of the milestone 200th episode of Stargate SG-1, Solutions has learned from its sources that the SciFi Channel has cancelled the show. The timing could not be worse for such a decision from the network and is sure to rebound on them disastrously in PR terms.

The news was reported by the authoritative cable industry bible Multichannel News on its website today: click here to read the full story.

“People close to the production of Stargate SG-1 said Sci Fi Channel canceled the series on the eve of its 200th episode, which aired last Friday night, making the show the first cable scripted series to reach such a milestone.

The announcement came in sometime before cast, crew and executives gathered to celebrate the historic airing at a Saturday-evening bash held at the Pan Pacific Hotel in Vancouver, British Columbia, where the series is shot.

Spinoff series Stargate Atlantis — which also airs Friday nights on Sci Fi and shares producers and production facilities with the older SG-1 — was said to be unaffected by the cancellation. Atlantis is currently in its third season.”

Fans have been well aware of the recent silence from SciFi Channel, always so quick to publicise ratings in the past. Season 10 premiered to lower ratings than previous seasons and has gone on to garner a series low. In fact, Season 10 of Stargate SG-1 has earned ratings similar to those which led to the cancellation of Farscape by SciFi Channel as Stargate SG-1 was launching on SciFriday.

The ratings battle

The complicated US Nielsen ratings system has baffled fan commentators on many genre shows. There may not be one single cause contributing to the ratings slide, but more likely a combination of factors, such as:

First, the SciFi Channel dismantled its three-hour SciFriday block of original programming – the showcase of the network. The airing of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica not only helped SciFi compete, but win tough Friday night ratings battles. This year, SciFi chose to hold back Battlestar Galactica, which won’t air until October 2006, reducing their three-hour block to a two-hour block of programming.

Any fan with Tivo or a VCR could have told the SciFi execs it’s common sense to watch the three-hour block and record the shorter two-hour block for convenient viewing later. Taking that third hour out of the equation removed an impetus to make SciFi the network to watch live on Friday nights.

An additional ratings factor is acknowledged by Mark Stern, SciFi Channel’s Executive Vice President of Original Programming. Interviewed by Mary McNamara for the May 8 issue of Multichannel News, Stern “believes some of the show’s tech-savvy, toy-loving, time-shifting audience gets missed in ratings compilations. ‘Part of it is the DVR,’ he explains, citing digital video recording devices. ‘Nielsen’s sampling is not representative of the larger universe yet. They’re sampling 3% and the larger [DVR] universe is something like 10 to 13%.”

Second, new timeslots for the shows have put Stargate SG-1 in direct competition with the cable ratings powerhouse Monk, and locked both SG-1 and Atlantis on SciFi in a head-to-head with Monk and strongly performing new show Psych on parent channel USA. Ironically, Bonnie Hammer is President of both the SciFi *and* USA networks!

The ratings of both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis have dipped and there is no guarantee that without their strong lead-in, Battlestar Galactica will fare any better when it finally airs in October. With all the advantages of the original three-hour programming block behind it, its ratings were only on par with those of Stargate last season. No one can predict how it will perform solo. SciFi Channel’s Farscape was equally beloved of the critics but was unable to sustain a financially viable audience.

Financial considerations

Of course, the economics of the respective Stargates also have to be taken into consideration. In its tenth season, Stargate SG-1 is much more expensive, much less cost-effective than Atlantis in only its third. And Atlantis has to survive to at least the end of a fourth season to generate a lucrative syndication deal.

In the television industry, syndication is the sale of the right to broadcast programs to multiple stations, without going through a broadcast network. It is commonly said in the U.S. industry that “syndication is where the real money is” when producing a TV show. In other words, while the initial run of any particular television series may theoretically lose money for its producing studio, the ensuing syndication will generate enough profit to balance out any losses. [Source: Wikipedia]

Stargate SG-1 has passed the magical “100 episodes” mark twice over; Atlantis has yet to meet it. With similar ratings this year, Stargate SG-1 is being cancelled by the network while Atlantis is headed for a fourth season.

Another economic consideration is that SciFi Channel doesn’t own the Stargate franchise as it does Battlestar Galactica or new show Eureka. It’s MGM, rather than SciFi, that benefits financially from merchandise, DVD’s and other franchise revenues. SciFi only garners the broadcast advertising income. They have more to gain with Battlestar Galactica and Eureka, and it shows in the amount of promotion they receive compared with the Stargates. Word is that SciFi will use its parent NBC affiliates to promote Battlestar Galactica, while Stargate never got a television ad except on SciFi itself.

One other possible financial constraint on the SciFi network was suggested in the May 8 2006 issue of Multichannel News: “In February, Variety reported that the NBC broadcast network’s ratings woes are filtering across to the NBC Universal-owned cable networks, and that such cable properties as USA Network, Bravo and Sci Fi are being pressured to favor NBC Universal Television Studios-produced content, thereby keeping revenue in-house.”

Solutions’ view

It’s extremely disappointing that the SciFi Channel, a science fiction network ‘flexible’ enough to introduce wrestling to its line up, can’t come up with a more creative response to the scheduling difficulties it has imposed on Stargate SG-1 than to cancel the show that has been so instrumental in boosting its profile, its ratings and its credibility.

Our hearts go out to all the members of the cast, the writers, the crew and the producers of Stargate SG-1. We’ve loved being with you these past ten years and we thank you for inspiring so many of us to join online communities and to create in our own right.

Care to comment?

Stargate fans are renowned for their passionate loyalty to the show, the characters and the cast. Solutions is owned by a former Save Daniel Jackson Campaign Steerer and started out as the headquarters of that campaign at its old web address – The Solutions editorial team don’t know at this point if fans will rally to a ‘Save Our Show’ type campaign, but for those who’d care to share their response to the cancellation of Stargate SG-1 by the SciFi Channel, we offer the following addresses for letters:

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Based on our considerable experience of fan campaigning, as referenced in the “200” episode of Stargate itself, we urge you to write and mail a polite, constructively phrased letter to each of the above SciFi Channel executives. Emails, web petitions and polls are so open to rigging, stuffing and other forms of manipulation, they are worthless – don’t waste time on them.

Telephone calls are also a useful tool, as the switchboard operators of MGM could attest during the Save Daniel Jackson Campaign. These are the numbers listed for NBC Universal in New York: (212) 757-5294 and (212) 956-2395.

Letters of support?

If you would like to see Stargate SG-1 have the opportunity to end properly – or continue on – with mini-series or direct-to-DVD movies, then please write a letter of support and encouragement to MGM:

Charles Cohen, Executive Vice President
MGM Television Entertainment,
10250 Constellation Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA, 90067

You can address letters of support for members of the cast and the production care of:

Stargate SG-1 Productions
Bridge Studios
2400 Boundary Rd, Burnaby, BC
Canada, V5M 3Z3

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© Cited extracts copyright, Stargate 200.(Stargate SG-1 from Sci Fi Channel). Mary McNamara. Multichannel News 27.19 (May 8, 2006): p24. & SciFi’s Stargate Said To Be Axed, Breaking News, Multichannel News website, 8/21/2006.

Solutions open to Many Voices

Old hands will remember that Solutions started out as the site of “Many Voices,” where anyone could write an essay, review, critique or hymn of praise and we’d happily publish it on the site. While tremendous efforts have been focused on bulding up our amazing Stargate Wiki database, we’ve reached a point in site development where we want to once again open Many Voices for business.

Many Voices will be about opinion and editorial, and it’s for y’all – there’s an open invitation to everyone to submit articles. Just drop us a line!

We’ve made a gentle start, with one or two recent editorial articles and a fresh new Season 10 reviews & ratings section. Please come check it out.

10.01 Flesh And Blood episode ratings & reviews

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